The hate for Tully is disturbing

[Sorceress]

I know.

And I think it is an awful thing for her girlfriend to endure and her family to witness, but surely we can all relate on some level. Even if you haven't personally experienced that awful sense of naughty lust, we all know people who have been affected by that dreaded third person. This is a basic human response to lust, and lust is powerful. It can affect you to the point you are obsessed with just throwing a leg over and being done with it, just so you can move on.

And even you admit, given the right circumstance (paralytic drunk) it could be considered.

I know how hard it is to fight attraction in the real world where you have opportunities for escape and you are able to confide in your girls on what you are feeling to get perspective, and bounce off your partner as a reminder of how good you have it. Imagine being trapped with a person who zings your lustometer, add alcohol, party games, a hot spa and a blurred reality. I probably would have ridden him like Black Caviar by now!

I can't relate to her, because I would have been distinctly aware of that fact that I was on tv and even then if I truly loved my partner, I wouldn't be aware of anyone else.
I said I'd have to be paraletic drunk to consider it and even then...this is stuff that's been happening over a few weeks and she's shown no remorse for what she's done.

 

[keke]

She's not unintelligent, no. But from what we have seen (which I admit is very little) she lacks emotional regulation and common sense.

Exactly. And knowing that she lacks emotional regulation and common sense would it not be advisable to go in with a plan to address these deficiencies? The fake breakup does address this requirement. And it keeps people talking about her.

 

[MissKLee]

If they're genuinely attracted to each other couldn't they have waited till they left the house to start a relationship?
Would have been the right thing to do by everyone, including themselves and Drew may well have maintained his chances of winning the 250K.

Totally agree.

I know.

And I think it is an awful thing for her girlfriend to endure and her family to witness, but surely we can all relate on some level. Even if you haven't personally experienced that awful sense of naughty lust, we all know people who have been affected by that dreaded third person. This is a basic human response to lust, and lust is powerful. It can affect you to the point you are obsessed with just throwing a leg over and being done with it, just so you can move on.

And even you admit, given the right circumstance (paralytic drunk) it could be considered.

I know how hard it is to fight attraction in the real world where you have opportunities for escape and you are able to confide in your girls on what you are feeling to get perspective, and bounce off your partner as a reminder of how good you have it. Imagine being trapped with a person who zings your lustometer, add alcohol, party games, a hot spa and a blurred reality. I probably would have ridden him like Black Caviar by now!

There is definitely something to this. The idea of it being a seperate or blurred reality. I found it odd when Tully was talking to Drew and kept saying their "friendship" and referring to him as her "fake boyfriend" and that she still has her "girlfriend who I love very much" ..It was almost like she could in no way see how it could be percieved that her and Drew could be anything more than friends, I think she genuinely doesn't see that she may have done anything wrong and I think she will be quite floored when she exits the house. That's odd to me..but then I remember they ARE in this slightly skewed reality, it might be very hard for some to keep perspective.

 

[Tee]

Well I guess that explains why you are defending her. That's pretty horrible. I would take a bullet before betraying my partner.

I know it is horrible.

But it is the truth.

I feel just because you choose to spend your life with someone doesn't stop you being attracted to other people. I feel sure my partner has been tempted in the same way, he is a good looking guy, probably way too good for me if I am to be honest. While I love my partner more than I have loved any man ever in my life, that doesn't stop me being attracted to other people.

 

[Queen Alla]

Exactly. And knowing that she lacks emotional regulation and common sense would it not be advisable to go in with a plan to address these deficiencies? The fake breakup does address this requirement. And it keeps people talking about her.

She also lacks the self awareness to know that they are weaknesses.

 

[Sorceress]

Exactly. And knowing that she lacks emotional regulation and common sense would it not be advisable to go in with a plan to address these deficiencies? The fake breakup does address this requirement. And it keeps people talking about her.

Yeah but she's also now escalating to one of the most disliked housemates of all time.

 

[Tee]

There is definitely something to this. The idea of it being a seperate or blurred reality. I found it odd when Tully was talking to Drew and kept saying their "friendship" and referring to him as her "fake boyfriend" qnd that she still has her "girlfriend who I love very much" ..It was almost like she could in no way see how it could be percieved that her and Drew could be anything more than friends, I think she genuinely doesn't see that she may have done anything wrong and I think she will be quite floored when she exits the house. That's odd to me..but then I remember they ARE in this slightly skewed reality, it might be very hard to keep perspective.

There is something about that primal zing that makes good people do bad things.

I know it doesn't make it right, and I think if we are going to look for someone to blame, we should look no further than an orgasm for being so fucking good!

Ha!

 

[Sorceress]

There is definitely something to this. The idea of it being a seperate or blurred reality. I found it odd when Tully was talking to Drew and kept saying their "friendship" and referring to him as her "fake boyfriend" qnd that she still has her "girlfriend who I love very much" ..It was almost like she could in no way see how it could be percieved that her and Drew could be anything more than friends, I think she genuinely doesn't see that she may have done anything wrong and I think she will be quite floored when she exits the house. That's odd to me..but then I remember they ARE in this slightly skewed reality, it might be very hard for some to keep perspective.

I think she was backtracking to be honest.
And also when you are involved in something like that you use those choice of words to try and convince yourself.

 

[CaspersMum]

Maybe at some point she should have stopped throwing herself into situations with this "object of her lust" that encouraged the feelings. Stop sleeping with him, stop massaging him, stop hanging off him like a bad fitting shirt.

I can understand lust. I also understand respect. Tully has none and neither does Drew.

 

[Tee]

I can't relate to her, because I would have been distinctly aware of that fact that I was on tv and even then if I truly loved my partner, I wouldn't be aware of anyone else.
I said I'd have to be paraletic drunk to consider it and even then...this is stuff that's been happening over a few weeks and she's shown no remorse for what she's done.

I think I would forget I was on TV within 2 days.

You said you would consider it. Never forget, you don't consider anything drunk, you haven't seriously contemplated sober.

It is bizarre how quickly we as humans adjust to a new reality to the point it feels like reality. I believe that house for the moment is their reality.

 

[Christina]

Perhaps they're under the misguided illusion that their "romance" is popular with the public and will keep them in the house for longer.

 

[Tee]

She also lacks the self awareness to know that they are weaknesses.

Well said.

 

[Queen Alla]

I know it is horrible.

But it is the truth.

I feel just because you choose to spend your life with someone doesn't stop you being attracted to other people. I feel sure my partner has been tempted in the same way, he is a good looking guy, probably way too good for me if I am to be honest. While I love my partner more than I have loved any man ever in my life, that doesn't stop me being attracted to other people.

No one is saying there is anything wrong with finding other people attractive while in a relationship (and anyone who is, is extremely naive and/or lying from a moral high horse.) Attraction is a normal part of every day life and relationships. Cheating is not. I

For the record, I haven't been cheated on (as far as I'm aware.) I cheated once (at the age of 15) and even then realised exactly what that said about me and what sort of person I was at that time. Self-centred and disrespectful. I learnt a lot from that, even at that she, and used that experience to better myself as a person. I also feel really strongly about Dre's part in this, and dislike the comments of 'well he's not the one in a relationship.' I can not even count the number of times men have wanted me to play a part on cheating on their girlfriends. I find it incredibly insulting to just be that fill in, think its disgusting that person would rather shag me than talk to their partner about whatever is lacking in their relationship to make them act on feelings of list, and it makes me think less of them. And I would for sure feel less of myself if I ever took any of them up on it, because what self respect I lacking to only be someone's understudy and not the main star. Both Tully and Drew are disrespecting themselves and each other as much as anyone else.

 

[MissKLee]

There is something about that primal zing that makes good people do bad things.

I know it doesn't make it right, and I think if we are going to look for someone to blame, we should look no further than an orgasm for being so fucking good!

Ha!

Hahaha ZING ZING!! Ooooo

I see how she could have a distorted view of reality in there, particularly given it seems she has some issues...But I still don't agree with the way she has handled it. Even on my worst and/or horniest day I would not be so completely self-absorbed that I would behave like that and not think a thing of it. My conscience would not allow that, my respect for my partner and family would not allow it...but..maybe not everyone feels and thinks the way I do (shock horror! hah)

 

[Tee]

I can understand lust. I also understand respect. Tully has none and neither does Drew.

I don't think lust and respect can really be measured fairly against each other.

I also think to say that Tully and Drew have no respect is quite unfair. This isn't genocide they are committing, it isn't even adultery, it is a couple of inappropriate pashes under the doona.

 

[Sorceress]

I think I would forget I was on TV within 2 days.

You said you would consider it. Never forget, you don't consider anything drunk, you haven't seriously contemplated sober.

It is bizarre how quickly we as humans adjust to a new reality to the point it feels like reality. I believe that house for the moment is their reality.

Ok so then you only do it like once or twice, she's been messing around with Drew for quite a while now...and the behaviour has also been addressed to her by other housemates, she still continues to do it.
I can only remember like one situation where I'd relate to Tully and that was when I was heavily drunk at a pub with mates and I sat on a guy's lap with his arms around me for like 10 minutes.
The next day I couldn't look at guys on tv without wanting to puke (sorry dudes lol).

I'm not sure Tully is able to understand the results of her actions.

 

[jooles_x]

I know it is horrible.

But it is the truth.

I feel just because you choose to spend your life with someone doesn't stop you being attracted to other people. I feel sure my partner has been tempted in the same way, he is a good looking guy, probably way too good for me if I am to be honest. While I love my partner more than I have loved any man ever in my life, that doesn't stop me being attracted to other people.

I don't know, I'm trying not to be presumptuous about your relationship, so I'll just say that I couldn't do that to someone I consider my soulmate. There are men (and women) who are physically very attractive to me, there are men (and women) whose personalities are very attractive, but there's nobody who could tempt me into causing that kind of damage to my partner, and to the relationship itself. I consider it .. I guess 'sacred' is the best word. There's a line you just don't cross because it violates something so precious.

I can't even relate to that mindset, tbh.

Sorry, it's fairly off topic, I guess. It's not that cheating is on the same 'level' as being a murderer or whatever. It's just that I'm so serious about my relationship, that seeing Tully so flippantly throw aside hers, and talk about it as though she's equally serious about her relationship, is hard to watch. At least, its hard to watch without getting fired up about the situation. lol

 

[Tee]

Hahaha ZING ZING!! Ooooo

I see how she could have a distorted view of reality in there, particularly given it seems she has some issues...But I still don't agree with the way she has handled it. Even on my worst and/or horniest day I would not be so completely self-absorbed that I would behave like that and not think a thing of it. My conscience would not allow that, my respect for my partner and family would not allow it...but..maybe not everyone feels and thinks the way I do (shock horror! hah)

It is so easy for us to sit in our armchairs, covered in Tim Tam crumbs and point the finger and judge.

No one is going to judge Tully harder than she will judge herself once she is evicted from that house and thrown head first into reality to explain her actions in front of the entire BB audience.

 

[MissKLee]

I think she was backtracking to be honest.
And also when you are involved in something like that you use those choice of words to try and convince yourself.

Ahh..yes, that does make sense.

 

[whiteflowers]

It is so easy for us to sit in our armchairs, covered in Tim Tam crumbs and point the finger and judge.

No one is going to judge Tully harder than she will judge herself once she is evicted from that house and thrown head first into reality to explain her actions in front of the entire BB audience.

I'm not sure about this. She doesn't have the self awareness to understand how inappropriate her behaviours are or that she has done anything wrong. I am guessing she will defend herself without taking any responsibility.