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Angie and Estelle

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I remember Angie and Estelle were friends to start with, but then started hating each other. I think Angie turned against Estelle first.

What was the trigger?

I've seen some suggest the Estelle-Ryan thing may be the trigger - but I never sensed that Angie liked Ryan at all. If she did she would have approached Ryan more. My impression of Angie so far is that she isn't interested in a relationship.

What are your thoughts?
 
Probably more has to do with the fact that Estelle became the bitching scapegoat for the house and Angie (being the useless, weak and insecure person she is) dropped her like a hot potato for fear of being ostracised as well.
 
^Explain?
Sarah was the only one that acted like an adult towards Estelle.
Albeit nauseatingly condescending but still, she addressed the issue like a freaking grown up.
 
Sorceress said:
^Explain?
Sarah was the only one that acted like an adult towards Estelle.
Albeit nauseatingly condescending but still, she addressed the issue like a freaking grown up.
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You think - I agree that she told Estelle what was bugging her about her but she also made sure everyone else knew as well. Very well and very often. That is IMO when to HM's kind of turned off Estelle. Just my opinion and what I saw.
 
So glad Sarah got booted the fuck out. That was a great eviction for me.

Michael will be a satisfying one too. The kind where you point at the screen at the evictee, jump out of your seat and say "Get the fuck out of there you <insert favourite expletive here>"

Very very satisfying and looking forward to it with Michael. The anticipation of that especially if it is a surprise is what makes eviction nights so riveting. Lol.

Well some will know what I mean... ;)
 
eye said:
Michael will be a satisfying one too. The kind where you point at the screen at the evictee, jump out of your seat and say "Get the fuck out of there you <insert favourite expletive here>"

Very very satisfying and looking forward to it with Michael. The anticipation of that especially if it is a surprise is what makes eviction nights so riveting. Lol.
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Hah, mine is Angie. Unfortunately it seems like we're both going to be waiting a while to see it happen
 
eye said:
Michael will be a satisfying one too. The kind where you point at the screen at the evictee, jump out of your seat and say "Get the fuck out of there you <insert favourite expletive here>"
Well some will know what I mean... ;)
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Ha-ha that made me chortle. I did this when Michael got put up for nomination. It was a pretty epic celebration, with lots of fist-pumping and funky dance moves. :D
 
alien-she said:
Hah, mine is Angie. Unfortunately it seems like we're both going to be waiting a while to see it happen
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Yes Angie will be right up there too, and yes she has some proven staying power but I'll be right with you with the celebrations when she is eventually put out on the kerb.
 
Yumq said:
Ha-ha that made me chortle. I did this when Michael got put up for nomination. It was a pretty epic celebration, with lots of fist-pumping and funky dance moves. :D
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Hehe. Glad I'm not alone then. Lol.
 
Wasn't there an Angie-Estelle-Josh love triangle, or am I thinking of someone else?
 
aragon said:
You think - I agree that she told Estelle what was bugging her about her but she also made sure everyone else knew as well. Very well and very often. That is IMO when to HM's kind of turned off Estelle. Just my opinion and what I saw.
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To be fair, Sarah told everyone about anything very well and very often.
Like how she was 30, for example.
3Jane said:
Wasn't there an Angie-Estelle-Josh love triangle, or am I thinking of someone else?
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Ben tried to push it, once Ava came into the house....they both went for her...LOL.
 
I think they get along but getting along is at odds with either of them trying to forge ahead in the house and group. I think they were both on the outer fighting for a spot on the inner. Only perceiving there to be one spot left. Estelle quickly got over it and is happy on the outer. While Angie is still in that rivalry of one spot on the inner, one on the outer. Worried there might be two spots on the outer. Desperately trying to push Estelle further to the outer so she fits into the inner. I think this feeds her antagonism towards Estelle if she's fighting for a spot when Estelle, when Estelle isn't fighting for it. It puts Estelle of side with her.
 
Early on i thought Angie is the sort of person who has a set number of close freinds , Estelle was trying to get to know her and getting too close and that took Angie out of her comfort zone... ever had someone want to hang out with you and your just not interested?
 
I think they're maybe slowly getting back to where they were. Notice neither nominated each other this time around, and looking at some of the videos on the official site over the weekend, a few include Estelle and Angie and they seem to be going good with each other.
 
Poona said:
I think they're maybe slowly getting back to where they were. Notice neither nominated each other this time around, and looking at some of the videos on the official site over the weekend, a few include Estelle and Angie and they seem to be going good with each other.
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Angie and Estelle are bed buddies. To be fair, they're all fairly close with eachother, but it's just that small moments that make it seem like they're not are shown on TV. But most of the time Angie and Estelle are pretty friendly.
 
A lot of people are talking about who's on the inner and the outer of the girls. As far as I can tell, Layla's the only one permanently on the inner. Angie was talking about "the 4 girls" but I can't even figure out which girl she's not counting,

On Friday's DS, Angie came out of the diary room crying and Estelle followed her into the storeroom saying "it's OK". It'd be a brave person who gave me permission to cry. How patronising.

PS. I'm not otherwise an Estelle-hater but I do think Angie is evil incarnate.
 
Angie changed when she realized Estelle was popular on the outside. Not the only HM who did mind you.
 
3Jane said:
A lot of people are talking about who's on the inner and the outer of the girls. As far as I can tell, Layla's the only one permanently on the inner. Angie was talking about "the 4 girls" but I can't even figure out which girl she's not counting,

On Friday's DS, Angie came out of the diary room crying and Estelle followed her into the storeroom saying "it's OK". It'd be a brave person who gave me permission to cry. How patronising.

PS. I'm not otherwise an Estelle-hater but I do think Angie is evil incarnate.
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I don't think it was 'permission' to cry, just offering support and empathy. At that point I think Angie was trying to hold things together because she didn't want to break down in front of everyone, seemed to me Estelle was just trying to comfort her.

Ben at the door was weird. Seriously, you don't have to stick your nose in everywhere.
 
3Jane said:
On Friday's DS, Angie came out of the diary room crying and Estelle followed her into the storeroom saying "it's OK". It'd be a brave person who gave me permission to cry. How patronising.
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Are you kidding me? Seems to me that's what you say to someone when they're upset?
Clutching at straws much?
 
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