I now remember fully the reason I didn't like her.
I liked her at the start, then the victim card was used.
I started to like her, then read the vile posts on here about Ben, so went back to disliking her.
People here say Ben was a bully, maybe he was, but Estelle fans were bullies as well.
You don't have to bully someone face to face, for it to be classed as bullying.
Estelle wasn't using the victim card in the house. In fact the BB production team did everything they could to try and pretend she wasn't a victim and bullying was going on.
The discussion of her being bullied came from people who were watching the show and disgusted by the group bullying going on. Ben was clearly the man behind this. There was all this talk of people not being deserving, there were discussions about isolating Estelle on purpose from the group. Once they had done this, they were even destroying her possessions because they gave her enjoyment.
When Estelle got a friend with a new house mate, Ben and that annoying lady had a whole discussion in the parlor about how they need to separate Ava from Estelle. They couldn't even let Estelle have a friend.
It was strong, undeniably mean behavior towards someone who did nothing wrong, just for the simple fact she wasn't like them and in their group. You yourself admit that 'maybe' Ben was bullying. You know he was. You can not seriously say someone actively working to socially isolate someone was not.
We were not friggin' bullying Ben. We merely discussing how horrible the treatment of Estelle was and the other anti-social behavior that was going on by one group in the house. Ben was the ring leader. Then it was all moronic Ben fans who thought the discussions was gong to harm the chances of Ben winning and so they went over board justifying the behavior by constantly attacking Estelle on the forums.
There were lots of abhorrent comments justifying how Estelle deserved to be treated this way. Constant victim blaming because if Estelle was a completely different person, they may have not bullied her. It was such utter bullshit. No one could ever argue how this behavior wasn't bullying. They and it seems you just attacked the victim because they liked the bully.
The Estelle stuff got out of hand because people didn't want to face the fact about Ben and many other housemates. They and you can't deny the treatment and actions was wrong. So it's just trying to justify them. Here you are, saying you hate Estelle because her fans were complaining that she got bullied. Your issue is the complaints, not Estelle. You can't deny in your post that Ben was a bully. Your whole post is some weird attempt at a 'tu quoque.' The ad hominem logical fallacy of 'appeal to hypocrisy.' Trying to say complaining about Ben's behavior being bullying was in fact bullying and there for rendering or trying to render the complaints invalid.
Point out Ben was a mean, vicious callouses manupulative narcissistic arsehole on the internet while watching him on a reality show does not constitute bullying. It's a shame that so many people were so emotionally invested and seduced by his glib charm that the reality of him being a prick couldn't shake that.
The focus on Estelle was her treatment. You must be a pretty shitty kind of person if you would actively dislike someone for nothing they did, but by something separate that you associate with her. People dislike Ben because he wasn't a good person, with what appeared to be some kind of dark triad personality going on. You dislike Estelle because people complaining about her treatment didn't say nice and lovely things about the main person behind her mistreatment. Which paints a picture of you which unfortunate for yourself and the people in your life. Maybe one day you will get some empathy and not be so easily seduced by an charming prick. But hey, on the plus side, there's a strong indication that you and Ben would be great friends, so maybe he can PM you on here and you're little fantasy of being his best friend can come true!
