Housemate #5 TULLY!

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Winterbourne said:
Would you say we have a plethora of 5 dollar words?

There is a big difference between debate, including myriad opinions and hypotheses, and relentless spamming of one idea, which instead stifles debate.
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You win! I was going to respond with a myriad but then I saw you snuck that one in there too.

Your linguistic skillz are legion.
 
Meewa said:
Some on here must live in a world that looks like a breakfast cereal ad.
Or LegoLand.
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Not living in a perfect world nor am I perfect. However, I have never cheated even though I've had plenty of opportunities.
 
Winterbourne said:
Would you say we have a plethora of 5 dollar words?

There is a big difference between debate, including myriad opinions and hypotheses, and relentless spamming of one idea, which instead stifles debate.
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I don't need six weeks - based on that sentence alone - I am now totally in love with you. Lol
 
delcan said:
Their "relationship" started with Tully saying that Jade was using Drew. A nominations night came up - Jade was nominated, and Tully was not, she took Jade's "bed space" that night. From that moment, she yelled at Drew every time he spoke to anyone other than her, accusing him of talking behind her back. That is not love. She even went as far as projecting her tantrums as being him throwing tantrums.

Yep, her and Tahlia aren't married, but they have lived together for a long time and have a dog together so they aren't a "married couple". And unfortunately same sex marriage is not legal in Australia. I am Gen Y - gay or straight, if you have a dog together, that is the same as having a child together. Given they live together, Tully is clearly assuming once she leaves the house she will just go back to their home together. Imagine Tahlia is a man who Tully is married to and has a child with, because that is basically the situation - is it still ok?
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Yes, it is still ok. Tully has not been unfaithful. Grow up!
 
chads said:
Not living in a perfect world nor am I perfect. However, I have never cheated even though I've had plenty of opportunities.
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I haven't really focussed on cheating in any specific way, that seems more your particular bugbear. I've seen your posts here and will not get into a running debate on a single issue which in my mind is not THE issue - would've posted on your Drew thread if that was the case. I suspect you have been hurt in the past by this, so it must be difficult for you to look at objectively. Personally in my own life I have found that many things that were black and white to me when I was a teenager now seem to have more shades of grey than the human eye can discern. I'm just trying to see as many of those shades as I can - in all aspects of life so please don't reduce this to some singular cheating issue.

I'm happy to discuss other things with you but won't be drawn into a debate about cheating with you, it seems a bit to close to you to have a level-headed conversation on that one.
 
Meewa said:
Actually I think it's a pretty hurtful and difficult situation for all involved. Some of us however feel a hell of a lot more than others. It can be exhilarating, it can be draining. I tend to react intuitively and emotionally to situations and having been in some tough ones myself I just can't bring myself to judge quite so readily as you.
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I acknowledge others "feel" more than others - I work in a hospital, I often feel like I care more about my patients than I should. Maybe that is the difference - I care more about others, whereas Tully cares more about herself. I'm not used to that level of selfishness and complete disregard of others due to my job.
 
keke said:
Yes, it is still ok. Tully has not been unfaithful. Grow up!
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WTF is your definition of cheating? Do Tully and Drew need to make a sex video with close ups of their genitals for you say it is cheating? Do you need to be in the room to measure the exact length of penetration?
 
Meewa said:
I haven't really focussed on cheating in any specific way, that seems more your particular bugbear. I've seen your posts here and will not get into a running debate on a single issue which in my mind is not THE issue - would've posted on your Drew thread if that was the case. I suspect you have been hurt in the past by this, so it must be difficult for you to look at objectively. Personally in my own life I have found that many things that were black and white to me when I was a teenager now seem to have more shades of grey than the human eye can discern. I'm just trying to see as many of those shades as I can - in all aspects of life so please don't reduce this to some singular cheating issue.

I'm happy to discuss other things with you but won't be drawn into a debate about cheating with you, it seems a bit to close to you to have a level-headed conversation on that one.
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Your post is exactly what this board is not for. Discussing other forum members. I will not discuss with you any futher either since you have trouble to stay on the subject without lashing out personal remarks.
 
Meewa said:
Actually I think it's a pretty hurtful and difficult situation for all involved. Some of us however feel a hell of a lot more than others. It can be exhilarating, it can be draining. I tend to react intuitively and emotionally to situations and having been in some tough ones myself I just can't bring myself to judge quite so readily as you.
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Oh right, now I get it! Do you also love people more than they love you?! How is your level of empathy?

Many of us have been through harrowing times in our lives, doesn't mean we can't come onto a reality tv forum and put forth our opinions about a HM who is annoying or acting like a prick or whatever. The whole concept of the show is based on people judging!

Your initial post was judgemental in itself. Who says your liberal views on how a relationship should be perceived or conducted is any better or trendy than those who abhor cheats? Your comments regarding Tahlia (shit happens, she'll get over it) are in stark contrast to the type of person you are claiming to be.

As I said previously, debate issues you don't agree with as they arise. You have come across holier than thou from the get go.
 
keke said:
Yes, it is still ok. Tully has not been unfaithful. Grow up!
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Let's all start responding to each other like the do gooder, liberals think we should...

Oh well Keke, that is your opinion. I respect that you feel that way however I repectfully disagree and hope that this doesn't upset you or hurt your very deep feelings. I hope you have a very lovely evening and look forward to chatting at some stage. Love BB
 
delcan said:
WTF is your definition of cheating? Do Tully and Drew need to make a sex video with close ups of their genitals for you say it is cheating? Do you need to be in the room to measure the exact length of penetration?
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Look, if you can arrange this I will gladly volunteer for the job. Just saying. It's not gay when it's a three-way.
 
Thanks [MENTION=34034]LoveBB[/MENTION] - I do a lot of research into personality types in my job - a lot of people perceive they "feel" more than others (including myself) and react intuitively and emotionally (like myself), but because of that, you would literally have to put a gun to my head and I'd probably cop that before betray their feelings.
 
[MENTION=34034]LoveBB[/MENTION] I never said regarding Tahlia "she'll get over it". I did say shit happens, and stand by that. It most certainly does, and i don't think anyone would say shit hasn't happened here. It's sad for them, it must hurt, love is messy.

I don't claim to be superior or love people more than they love me. Although when I heard Tully say that I just felt sad for her.

I also don't have a particular view on who is right or wrong in this case, we have never had the benefit of observing Tully and Tahlia's relationship. I value honesty and loyalty more than most people I know - the last time I lied to avoid trouble was in 1993.
 
Reaper said:
Look, if you can arrange this I will gladly volunteer for the job. Just saying. It's not gay when it's a three-way.
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I have to admit I can't arrange this, but if I could, you would be first on my list. It's always good to have willing volunteers, I hope the BB producers get hold of this and get in contact with you
 
Tully feels more than others? You could have fooled me considering how little regard she has for Tahlia, who she still thinks will be dutifully waiting for her once she gets out.
 
Meewa said:
With regards to the Drully situation - their initial affectionate friendship is entirely believable to me. When I was that age I was going through some of the hardest things I think I will ever have to, yet also having the time of my life with some of the best friends I will ever have. At that age friendships and love can feel so intense, particularly in my experience in groups of friends that spend a lot of time doing everything together. Throw in a party scene and the need to escape occasionally from the pressure of feeling you need to hold a family together and these friendships become intensified.

I know for a fact that my partner and I at the time hugged, kissed and cuddled all our friends all the time. We were all comfortable with each other physically as well as emotionally and the level of trust was extremely high and nothing ever happened that we would have construed as cheating, although reading this thread there are a lot of puritans who would have had us crucified for some of our actions. And no - we weren't swingers!
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What a load of bullshit.

The way Tully and Drew have conducted themselves is beyond inappropriate. It's no longer merely an "affectionate friendship" and hasn't been that for weeks. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

I'm sick of people trying to justify selfish actions by bringing the conversation back to themselves and their love life and their relationship and what's okay for them and blah blah blah. Guess what, what's okay for you isn't okay for other people. It wasn't okay for Tahlia, and hers is the only opinion that's relevant. Recognising cheating as cheating and calling a spade a spade isn't being sanctimonious or puritanical, you can kindly gtfo with that "logic".
 
Meewa said:
[MENTION=34034]LoveBB[/MENTION] I never said regarding Tahlia "she'll get over it". I did say shit happens, and stand by that. It most certainly does, and i don't think anyone would say shit hasn't happened here. It's sad for them, it must hurt, love is messy.

I don't claim to be superior or love people more than they love me. Although when I heard Tully say that I just felt sad for her.

I also don't have a particular view on who is right or wrong in this case, we have never had the benefit of observing Tully and Tahlia's relationship. I value honesty and loyalty more than most people I know - the last time I lied to avoid trouble was in 1993.
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Modest much?
 
delcan said:
WTF is your definition of cheating? Do Tully and Drew need to make a sex video with close ups of their genitals for you say it is cheating? Do you need to be in the room to measure the exact length of penetration?
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Emotional cheating is considered cheating by the majority of people. Examples would be when you confide in another person instead of your partner and seek things from them you should be seeking from your partner. Many people consider emotional affairs worse than physical affairs.
 
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