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The hate for Tully is disturbing

Sorceress said:
Ok so then you only do it like once or twice, she's been messing around with Drew for quite a while now...and the behaviour has also been addressed to her by other housemates, she still continues to do it.
I can only remember like one situation where I'd relate to Tully and that was when I was heavily drunk at a pub with mates and I sat on a guy's lap with his arms around me for like 10 minutes.
The next day I couldn't look at guys on tv without wanting to puke (sorry dudes lol).

I'm not sure Tully is able to understand the results of her actions.
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I think you've just hit the nail on the head. If Tully and Drew had shared a drunken pash and woke up the next day and regretted it and tried to rectify the mistake, I probably wouldn't have an issue. I mean, despite my rant above, I do understand that sometimes things happen. So I'm sorry [MENTION=30612]TraLa[/MENTION] for going a bit overboard just a couple of posts back (I was sitting high and mighty on my own high horse.)

I think it bothers me so much seeing this all play out on screen is that there is no remorse, there is no attempt for them to avoid the hole they are digging themselves into. It's an ongoing breach of respect, not just a once off lapse in judgement.
 
You're right [MENTION=30612]TraLa[/MENTION] it is so easy to sit here and judge, but don't we all do it with these HM's? To some extent we all judge, whether we verbalise it or not, we all form opinions based on their actions. Sometimes I think WE are more of the 'social experiment' than the HM's are. I am not usually really quick to judge, I'd say I'm fairly open-minded..but there are some things that will just scream of disrespect to me..and there is nothing I loathe more.
 
CaspersMum said:
Maybe at some point she should have stopped throwing herself into situations with this "object of her lust" that encouraged the feelings. Stop sleeping with him, stop massaging him, stop hanging off him like a bad fitting shirt.

I can understand lust. I also understand respect. Tully has none and neither does Drew.
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This is a key point. Don't fan the flames! Even the idea that it's somehow acceptable because you're drunk and you can't help it when you're drunk. She chooses to fan the flames, and chooses to drink til drunk. It's not an excuse.
 
TraLa said:
There is something about that primal zing that makes good people do bad things.

I know it doesn't make it right, and I think if we are going to look for someone to blame, we should look no further than an orgasm for being so fucking good!

Ha!
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You know what they say.. NEVER make a romantic decision without first having an orgasm!
 
I will say though..If I were Tully(or any of the HM's for that matter) I would know that my flaws would be out there for Autralia to pick at and I would stay well away from these forums..and I hope she does.
 
jooles_x said:
I don't know, I'm trying not to be presumptuous about your relationship, so I'll just say that I couldn't do that to someone I consider my soulmate. There are men (and women) who are physically very attractive to me, there are men (and women) whose personalities are very attractive, but there's nobody who could tempt me into causing that kind of damage to my partner, and to the relationship itself. I consider it .. I guess 'sacred' is the best word. There's a line you just don't cross because it violates something so precious.

I can't even relate to that mindset, tbh.

Sorry, it's fairly off topic, I guess. It's not that cheating is on the same 'level' as being a murderer or whatever. It's just that I'm so serious about my relationship, that seeing Tully so flippantly throw aside hers, and talk about it as though she's equally serious about her relationship, is hard to watch. At least, its hard to watch without getting fired up about the situation. lol
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I respect your views, but they are not mine.

I have had a few good long term relationships and I always viewed sex as something to be enjoyed rather than something sacred, so it is fair to say I have ridden a good few pony's.

I don't believe in soulmates. I believe there is a woman who would love my partner better, treat him better and love him better, my job is to keep him so enamored with me he doesn't even notice when his perfect mate walks by and I show my love for him every day.

As I said, I love my partner more than any other man, we have been together for 15 years. Five years ago I was seriously tempted, and last year I was seriously tempted. I did not act on my lust because of my deep love and respect for my partner. However, if I was locked in a house 24/7 with either of these guys without my support network (my girls), my partner (as a daily reminder of what I have) and my life (as a distraction) I can't say with 100% if you added vodka, a hot spa, kissing games that I wouldn't have crossed the uncrossable line.

I know it is not nice to admit, I know that makes me flawed, but that is the truth. Lust can make good people risk everything that matters to them, all for a stupid moment.
 
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jooles_x said:
You know what they say.. NEVER make a romantic decision without first having an orgasm!
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Hahaha you sure a hetero chick said this?!
TraLa said:
I respect your views, but they are not mine.

I have had a few good long term relationships and I always viewed sex as something to be enjoyed rather than something sacred, so it is fair to say I have ridden a good few pony's.

I don't believe in soulmates. I believer their is a woman who would love my partner better, treat him better and love him better, my job is to keep him so enamored with me he doesn't even notice when his perfect mate walks by and I show my love for him every day.

As I said, I love my partner more than any other man, we have been together for 15 years. Five years ago I was seriously tempted, and last year I was seriously tempted. I did not act on my lust because of my deep love and respect for my partner. However, if I was locked in a house 24/7 with either of these guys without my support network (my girls), my partner (as a daily reminder of what I have) and my life (as a distraction) I can't say with 100% if you added vodka, a hot spa, kissing games that I wouldn't have crossed the uncrossable line.

I know it is not nice to admit, I know that makes me flawed, but that is the truth. Lust can make good people risk everything that matters to them, all for a stupid moment.
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Well this does help because it gives an insight into how someone could relate to Tully.
And how others don't.
I've slept in the same bed with a chick who was draped all over me and pretended to be asleep to stay loyal to a girl I'd been with for a matter of weeks.
We're all different.
 
TraLa said:
I know it is not nice to admit, I know that makes me flawed, but that is the truth. Lust can make good people risk everything that matters to them, all for a stupid moment.
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I understand your view. When you wake up the next morning, knowing your partner is watching would you regret your decisions and try your best to stay away from that person? Or would you continue to carry on in the hope that no one was watching despite the fact that everyone else is talking about you two as a couple?
 
[MENTION=30612]TraLa[/MENTION] We're all flawed :) Your honesty and self-awareness is commendable.
Plus..you just made reference to riding ponies! Haha! Giddyup!!
 
TraLa said:
I don't think lust and respect can really be measured fairly against each other.

I also think to say that Tully and Drew have no respect is quite unfair. This isn't genocide they are committing, it isn't even adultery, it is a couple of inappropriate pashes under the doona.
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Nah it isn't unfair. Where has the respect for Tully's partner been shown by either one? Has he at any point said, "Hey, not appropriate. You aren't single." Has she ever once said, "Hey, not appropriate. I'm not single." Not that I know of.

The pashing, the rubbing, the full on bloody ass grab she was doing last night. While your partner is home watching it all on TV? Extreme lack of respect for anything other than their hormones.

I draw a very bold line in the sand when it comes to cheating. Backstory no one wants: my husband was married to the town bike before he married me. Everybody had a ride. So I have had to live with the fallout from that for the past 15 years.

What they are doing makes me feel so bad for her ex-partner it makes me want to puke.

And thats the last overshare you will ever get from me! Pinky swear.
 
This has been such and enjoyable experience learning about each others views and feelings on such a volatile topic.

I think the way this conversation has moved shows we are a classy bunch of girls (even though it is now public knowledge that I have ridden a man pony or two! Ha!)
 
I understand your view. When you wake up the next morning, knowing your partner is watching would you regret your decisions and try your best to stay away from that person? Or would you continue to carry on in the hope that no one was watching despite the fact that everyone else is talking about you two as a couple?


On National Television....
 
I think Tully thinks that everyone perceives her as a lesbian, so what she does with Drew (as long as she doesn't go too far) looks ok to the public and to Tahlia. Also, I agree with what [MENTION=30612]TraLa[/MENTION] said.
 
TraLa said:
This has been such and enjoyable experience learning about each others views and feelings on such a volatile topic.

I think the way this conversation has moved shows we are a classy bunch of girls (even though it is now public knowledge that I have ridden a man pony or two! Ha!)
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This, I can agree on. (: Never have I seen such polite discourse on this volatile topic.
 
whiteflowers said:
I understand your view. When you wake up the next morning, knowing your partner is watching would you regret your decisions and try your best to stay away from that person? Or would you continue to carry on in the hope that no one was watching despite the fact that everyone else is talking about you two as a couple?
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I did once cheat on a lover and I have only actually physically cheated once, though I have fantasied zillions of times. I was 20 and had been in a relationship with this guy for a year. I met his best friend, who had been his best friend since Kinder and I wanted him more than I wanted anyone in my life and we were drawn to each other like a magnets. Any opportunity I got to be near him, I took it. Within a few months it was on like Donkey Kong. It ruined my relationship, it ruined my boyfriends relationship with his life long friend, friends got involved, and family was horrified and even all this time later, it makes my heart ache with sadness knowing we caused so much hurt.

So I think my experience would suggest I just carried on.

Lust makes good people fucking insane.

For every action there is a reaction. Tully will meet hers on eviction, and judging by the feedback we see in this forum, it aint gonna be pretty!
 
CaspersMum said:
Nah it isn't unfair. Where has the respect for Tully's partner been shown by either one? Has he at any point said, "Hey, not appropriate. You aren't single." Has she ever once said, "Hey, not appropriate. I'm not single." Not that I know of.

The pashing, the rubbing, the full on bloody ass grab she was doing last night. While your partner is home watching it all on TV? Extreme lack of respect for anything other than their hormones.
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This here hints at the crux of it all, imo. We've seen in this thread that people are different, react differently to the same event, and have different priorities that lead to different feelings on the matter. That's all fine and dandy (a testament to diversity), but when it comes down to it, it's all a moot point.

Tahlia broke up with Tully, which means that no matter what our opinions on the matter may be, the only person who matters considers this unacceptable. That tells us all we need to know, imo, to deduce whether Tully is behaving appropriately or not for her relationship. She's not.
 
TraLa said:
This has been such and enjoyable experience learning about each others views and feelings on such a volatile topic.

I think the way this conversation has moved shows we are a classy bunch of girls (even though it is now public knowledge that I have ridden a man pony or two! Ha!)
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Agreed! And I think we probably already thought there may be a pony or two in your past! Hahahaha!!

jooles_x said:
This here hints at the crux of it all, imo. We've seen in this thread that people are different, react differently to the same event, and have different priorities that lead to different feelings on the matter. That's all fine and dandy (a testament to diversity), but when it comes down to it, it's all a moot point.

Tahlia broke up with Tully, which means that no matter what our opinions on the matter may be, the only person who matters considers this unacceptable. That tells us all we need to know, imo, to deduce whether Tully is behaving appropriately or not for her relationship. She's not.
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this is it exactly. Right here. End of discussion. (For me anyway!) Well done, [MENTION=34850]jooles_x[/MENTION]
 
TraLa said:
This has been such and enjoyable experience learning about each others views and feelings on such a volatile topic.

I think the way this conversation has moved shows we are a classy bunch of girls (even though it is now public knowledge that I have ridden a man pony or two! Ha!)
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I agree, and thank you for being so honest and sharing your experiences.
 
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