General O/T Chit Chat Thread

[derspatz]

That was awful. So tragic and avoidable.

I agree with awful, especially for the couple of girls sitting around the pool and who were nearly hit by her.

How awful for them as well as her poor parents and sisters.

I also agree with tragic.

But "avoidable" ?

Surely a case of "her life, her choice."

From here: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...lies-about-to-hit-surfers-20121123-29thu.html

...

Police said Ms Colman was alone in the apartment she was sharing with six friends during the schoolies week at the time of her death and hadn't been skylarking on the balcony.

Her death isn't being treated as suspicious.

Asked if anything could have been done to prevent the tragedy, Assistant Commissioner Graham Rynders simply said: "In this case, absolutely not."

Pretty clear what happened.

As to why she chose that particular time and place, well, that's just none of my business ...

If it wasn't schoolies week I doubt if it would have been in the news.

BTW, in the last month there were at least three deaths involving balconies on the Gold Coast. I suspect that not only is that number normal for most months but also the numbers tend to increase on Christmas and New Year as folk are confronted with the reality of yet another year past that they barely could put up with and the thought of facing yet another year of the same or worse.

As for "schoolies", well that implies "end of school and out into the big bad world, ready or not", yes ?

regarDS

 

[el'coopo]

Really ders? You just can't help yourself



If anyone is feeling overwhelmed, or like they just can't do it anymore, there is help out there, and it is never too late to change your life.
http://www.youthbeyondblue.com

[MENTION=1022]tess[/MENTION] - please scroll right past ders post above mine, I usually do, sure wish I had this time too.

 

[Jam]

So, so sad Tess; I hate to think what your family is going through. Such an awful thing to happen!

 

[derspatz]

Really ders? You just can't help yourself

?

Eh ?

Why the unsmilie faces ?

What did I apparently do that in your eyes was worthy of mad and frowny faces ?

We had somebody here try and make out that it was some sort of tragic and avoidable accident.

In short, portray it as something it wasn't.

I merely corrected that.

By your "mad" faces should I presume that you would prefer that a lie be promoted rather than truth told ?

regarDS

 

[derspatz]

Such an awful thing to happen!

"Happen ?" Surely the more accurate thing to say would be "for her to do" ?

... but I agree, such an awful thing she has done to her parents and siblings, etc.

One I would hope that none of us or our kids would do to our own families and friends.

regarDS

 

[Jam]

"Happen ?" Surely the more accurate thing to say would be "for her to do" ?

... but I agree, such an awful thing she has done to her parents and siblings, etc.

One I would hope that none of us or our kids would do to our own families and friends.

regarDS

Derspatz, you are clearly assuming that this young woman was suffering from major depression which resulted in her tragic death. Depression is an illness over which the sufferer has no more control than if suffering from cancer or the common cold. If it is indeed the case that she suffered from depression, which we don't actually know, it did 'happen'; and it happened to her and the repercussions for family and friends should be treated with more sensitivity than you are demonstrating.

 

[derspatz]

Derspatz, you are clearly assuming that this young woman was suffering from major depression which resulted in her tragic death.

No it isn't and no I'm not.

Sometimes people just jump off balconies or cliffs or bridges purely because the locations are available to them and when the thought pops into their heads the countering "no, don't do it, even if only for your family" doesn't pop up quick enough.

Also, when you bring up kids on a diet of moral relativism / subjective morality / "no point or plan to life and death is the end of you and nothing you ever do or don't do actually matters in the long run" evolutionism then it shouldn't really surprise anyone that, even in a well to do household, some kids might choose to "opt out" at a point in their lives that they mistakenly might think as being "it doesn't get any better than this".

In short, some people might op out because they can't take any more of a relatively crappy life, and others might opt out before the party ends and they have to deal with "life after school" and all that.

BTW, ever seen the documentary called "the bridge" ?

It shows how quickly these things can happen when the "right" sort of location is available.

(Tess, this one prolly not a good idea for you)

[youtubevid]HG3UMb3uHe0[/youtubevid]

On another note, I bet apartment leasers and hotels are worried about how this is going to affect future room hire.

Like, what parent is now going to think "yeah, let's rent a highrise for my precious and her friends next year" now ?

Anyhoo, time to go bother my son and ring him to see how his weekend is going.

Parents, we never stop worrying, eh ?

regarDS

 

[bonnie]

If anyone is feeling overwhelmed, or like they just can't do it anymore, there is help out there, and it is never too late to change your life.
http://www.youthbeyondblue.com

Good idea to post that Coops. Really hope [MENTION=1022]tess[/MENTION] and her family are coping ok.

 

[Meglos]

Condolences tess.

Ffs derspatz, did you overlook the minor detail that one of our members (who I'm sure you know, and have for many years) is related to the family of that girl? In short, if you can't muster up any compassion, why say anything at all?

 

[tess]

Ders is a prick who posts shit like the above, on purpose to upset people. I've seen him do it many times on here.

I'm sure he wouldn't have said any thing like that, in real life, if this had happened to someone in his own family.

He's an insensitive, shit stirring arse

 

[tess]

Condolences tess.

Ffs derspatz, did you overlook the minor detail that one of our members (who I'm sure you know, and have for many years) is related to the family of that girl? In short, if you can't muster up any compassion, why say anything at all?

Thanks meglos

 

[bonnie]

Ders is a prick who posts shit like the above, on purpose to upset people. I've seen him do it many times on here.

I'm sure he wouldn't have said any thing like that, in real life, if this had happened to someone in his own family.

He's an insensitive, shit stirring arse

Quoted for truth. Had not read anything from this poster before, search reveals I had missed nothing. How you doing tess?

 

[la`cat]

Ok I am having a go at before & after of K&F. Have not had a photobucket account for years so this will be interesting.

Kerry on left & Frank on the right, before shot

during (Frank in undignified position & Kerry watching in trepidation)

and after (Frank in cage)

both boys in the paddock nude

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.....I just want to cuddle them !!!!

elloes everyone

 

[la`cat]

oh wow, I'm in a bit of shock right now.

I was watching the news and figured out the girl that died at schoolies is my cousins daughter.

As soon as they said her name and that her dad is a journo at the courier mail I thought oh no. And the picture they showed of her on the news...she's the spitting image of her mum (my cousin). I'm so upset for them!

huge hugs tess. I can never imagine anything worse than losing a child .

 

[derspatz]

Condolences tess.

For what it is worth, ditto, though I'm not sure by any of what has been posted here, if there is actually that much closeness/contact between the cousins anyway.

Ffs derspatz, did you overlook the minor detail ...

Ffs Meglos, did you overlook the fact that somebody tried to make out this was some sort of avoidable tragic accident rather than it actually being a tragic / poor choice expression of free will ?

That they tried to make it out to be something it wasn't and by doing so mislead the forum ?

Seriously, why am *I* being made out to be the bad guy here ? Did you overlook the "minor detail" that I too have said it is awful, that it is tragic, and that I feel for the family and friends, etc, etc, yes ?

I wouldn't have chimed in with the link info if somebody else hadn't misled me (and the rest of the forum) into thinking it was a tragic accident when it wasn't.

Anyhoo, for you fellow sharing and caring types, I did have a quick chat with numba1son and it turns out he is off to a ex school chums 21st tonight, so I went briefly into parent mode and told him to not get anyone pregnant, take illicit substances, or tumble off a balcony.

That covers "sex, drugs, and roll onto rocks", yes ?

A pity it also involved a train trip to Midand though.

Hmmm, I think I'll sms him again. sigh. How I hate going into helicopter parent mode !

regarDS

 

[derspatz]

And if he did happen to "tumble off a balcony" or befall any other fate, you would get nothing but genuine sympathy/empathy here, nobody would be so crass as to imply it was deliberate. But hey, different rules for you, you can say what you want. Congratulations, you're the King Of The Internet.

Unlike many in these forums, I'm conservative and libertarian, a lover and promoter of personal freedom and personal responsibility.

Thus, despite any natural / normal concern or worry I shall always have re: the fruit of my loins and/or my family, at the end of the day I shall and must accept another person's right to make poor choices and but mourn the consequences such poor choices inevitably must bring.

In short, if number1son, like the 17yo "schoolie" in QLD *CHOOSES* (which is plainly "implied" by the linked mass media coverage of that sad,/ tragic / awful bit of news that normally wouldn't be reported) to "take a tumble" off a balcony, then it is HIS life and thus HIS choice to do so.

If something is plainly deliberate, I would say it was deliberate and not do what was done in these forums by one or more others and suggest that it was some sort of avoidable accident when it clearly was not.

So, "same rules", thank you.

Now, all that said, it has now been around 3hrs since I smsed and called numba1son to see if he got through Midland ok and I've not heard back. Hopefully I'll hear from him tomorrow and all will be ok.

Either way, his life and his choice to take a train to that particular and notorious "end of the line".

I wouldn't, but hey, if personal freedom and personal responsibility is the way for me then I certainly can't begrudge the same for him, eh ?

[ADIT] You can all sleep soundly now, I finally got an SMS from him indicating he survived Midland train station.

regarDS

 

[bonnie]

elloes everyone

Hi Cat. Will be a hot one today so K&F will finally thank me for their nudity. They are still not happy with me
I have all my boys coming for lunch today YAY!
Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday.

 

[Cowie]

Morning bonnie. I dont have my bubba nephew today and got all my housework done yesterday I don't quite know what to do to fill in my day. I promised madam we'd go to target and kmart.

 

[aajptt]

Happy 21st Birthday Theo wherever you may or may not be.

I hope to are well and merry, I would sing you happy birthday but I don't think I could afford the royalties.

I had hoped to have learnt the art of the gif for today, but I havnt had the time so instead you get this pissy little motie.



I hope you had fun and had a few debaucherous adventures.....


luv ya n stuff.......

 

[Mr Stickyfingers]

...oh dear... went to the Doctor's yesterday and she told me to 'slow down' a little in my intake of alcohol... I must say... my brother visited me today and I had a 'couple' to be sociable... oh well... I'll start 'slowing down' tomorrow methinks... cheers.